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Animals in Translation by Temple Grandin
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My mother gave me this book and I wanted to get it read before my next trip north. I am very glad I did; it was fascinating on many levels.

Temple Grandin uses her own life experience as a person with autism to explore animal behavior. She compares the way brains work: 'normal' human, autistic human, animal. She talks about her own work and research with animals, but also mentions many research projects and publications that also deal with the ideas of why we (animals and people) are the way we are. How similar are we? How different?

Chapters range from 'How Animals Perceive The World' to 'Animal Aggression' to 'How Animals Think'. She talks about selective breeding and how it is changing not only dog breeds but pigs and cattle as well, because when one specific trait is encouraged, a lot of others are lost, thus affecting the overall disposition of the animal and creating health or behavior issues that were not around before.

I was tickled by the idea of prairie dog language, and the reason offered for why these little rodents seem to have developed the ability to use calls that correspond to nouns, verbs, entire sentences. While Man usually congratulates himself for being the only creature intelligent enough to develop language, what if that ability actually came from being a prey animal? If you are a prey animal and have no way at all to communicate to your fellows, you will all be eaten eventually. Prairie dogs are every predators favorite snack. Not hard to imagine how tantalizing early man would have been to all the hungry predators around those days. Language in man would have made it easier to survive. Apparently language in prairie dogs is doing the same thing. I thought that was cool, and would love to read more of the original papers written by Con Slobodchikoff about his research and findings.

I don't usually take as many notes for a print book as I do when I am reading online, so I don't have specific examples handy to share. But I have worked with animals: dogs and cats at two veterinary clinics, and even more closely later with horses. I found myself constantly thinking 'yes, of course', or 'Oh, that makes so much sense'. I think anyone who observes, loves, and understands animals will appreciate this book. And if a reader wants to develop better relationships with animals but would like some guidance, this an excellent place to begin, in my opinion.

During my four years living and working on a horse breeding farm, I often felt like one of the herd, as odd as that may sound. But I had developed a connection to the horses that allowed me to wander around with them as if, in their eyes, I was just another horse. This was a huge benefit when I was working with the babies. Once I was able to figure out why one youngster freaked out whenever we walked past a certain pick-up truck: he was seeing his reflection in the shiny bumper and thought it was a horse-eating monster. I coaxed him up to the truck and had him touch noses with himself. Whether he understood exactly what he was seeing at that point, I don't know, but he immediately relaxed, his entire body language revealing that he seemed very proud of himself right then, and he never was scared of that shiny truck bumper again.

My experiences over the years on the farm is why I agree so strongly with Ms. Grandin's final thoughts:

"I don't know if people will ever be able to talk to animals the way Doctor Doolittle could, or whether animals will be able to talk back. Maybe science will have something to say about that.

But I do know people can learn to "talk" to animals, and to hear what animals have to say, better than they do now. I also know that a lot of times people who can talk to animals are happier than people who can't. People were animals, too, once, and when we turned into human beings we gave something up. Being close to animals brings some of it back."


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September 2, 2016 – Started Reading
September 2, 2016 – Shelved
September 15, 2016 – Shelved as: saturdaymx
September 15, 2016 – Finished Reading

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message 1: by MomToKippy (new) - added it

MomToKippy What a wonderful review! Love the quote. I must move this up in my tbr list. Being around animals and horses most of my life, I think I will surely enjoy it.


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Carmen Great review, Debbie! I loved your little story about the 'horse-eating monster!'


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Chrissie There is an overlap between the two books, this and Beyond Words: What Animals Think and Feel.

Selective breeding is one of the things discussed in both. An interesting thing is that through selective breeding one changes not only appearance but also personality traits. By reinforcing one gene you at the same time reinforce other traits that were maybe not intended. Floppy ears and friendliness are tied.

Language skills. Many animals communicate. That we don't understand their language does not mean they cannot communicate with each other! Animals even understand the use of syntax!

I loved hearing about your experiences with horses! It is absolutely true that if you live with animals and have them around you daily you understand and communicate with them on a different level. There is communication beyond words; look at the title of Safina's book. Body language is as important a source of communication as verbal words. AND, we humans lie with our words. Apes and other animals do too. Animals do this and then we turn around and say they don't think! Who is the stupid one?!

And think about this. I know when I am having a hypo and my brain is working on zero sugar I can read body language.

I think, Debbie, you would love Beyond Words: What Animals Think and Feel as much as I did. I would grab yours if I could get it and listen to it. I seriously think I should have given it five rather than four stars. And the discussions I had after reading this book with my husband! He listened to sections.The book goes off in many directions, for example is the human race becoming more peaceful or not? are we going in the right direction? Humans beings are a work in progress, not a finished product. You think about matriarchal communities like the bonobos and you then get drawn into the different sexual traits. Elephants are also matriarchal and totally fascinating.

I like your last quote. I think animals understand US and communicate with us better than we can communicate with them. Killer whales are a clear example!


message 4: by Chrissie (new) - added it

Chrissie I forgot to say, I looked yesterday for your review, but you hadn't finished the book yet.


Debbie Zapata Chrissie, I will certainly keep Beyond Words high on my radar, and thanks so much for your great review of it! I think the entire subject is fascinating, mainly because I have had experiences showing what is possible between animals and people. We simply have to pay attention!

A topic that was brought up that I knew nothing about (but which sounds quite plausible) is the research into the relationship between wolves and ancient humans. Traditionally the idea has been that we trained the wolves, but it seems that many researchers now believe the wolves trained us. That before man began to interact with the wolf, he did not understand society, that the wolf taught him how to live as a pack, how to hunt together, and so on. I thought this idea was splendid, even though it makes me even sadder when I think about how the wolf has been treated in return once Man became completely "civilized".

Yes, when I mentioned this book on your review I had a couple of chapters left to read. I was supposed to pull weeds yesterday but I finished the book instead. LOL


message 6: by Chrissie (new) - added it

Chrissie Debbie that about who domesticates who was brought up in my book too. It is related to self-domestication. It was probably a two way interaction from BOTH wolves and man.

The problem is that man see the world as ours and ours alone. We have no interest in "paying attention". This has to change.

Now you are going to think I am going to far, but consider this. I know Oscar loves me. I know he has emotions and intelligence. Why hadn't I figured out that it is the same with other creatures, and not just those with whom humans can share thoughts and emotions with - like elephants, like killer whales, like bonobos. It makes me think I should not step on a bug....... Do you follow my thoughts? Seriously, just b/c I cannot comprehend their emotions and intelligence that does not mean they do not exist.

Seriously, I really ought to have given my book five stars maybe.

Debbie, you book doesn't exist in an audiobook. :0(


message 7: by Lisa (new)

Lisa Vegan Chrissie wrote: "Now you are going to think I am going to far, but consider this. I know Oscar loves me. I know he has emotions and intelligence. Why hadn't I figured out that it is the same with other creatures, and not just those with whom humans can share thoughts and emotions with - like elephants, like killer whales, like bonobos. It makes me think I should not step on a bug....... Do you follow my thoughts? Seriously, just b/c I cannot comprehend their emotions and intelligence that does not mean they do not exist. "

Like all animals farmed for humans too. They all have intelligence and distinct personalities and can feel the gamut of emotions. That's the main reason I'm a vegan. I've gotten to know several farmed animals. I'm a city girl so don't like spending that much time at sanctuaries but I've spend a couple days at them.


message 8: by Chrissie (new) - added it

Chrissie Lisa, well, I don't eat animals, but the real truth is because it doesn't work for my health. Still, I am glad I don't hurt any creatures. Do you feel guilty when you step on a bug? I almost do now. I have no idea what is going on in their head and heart.

Of course I have always understood the value of caring for nature, but knowing that you are hurting another being with emotions and understanding puts the whole thing in another light.


message 9: by Lisa (last edited Sep 16, 2016 10:44AM) (new)

Lisa Vegan Chrissie, In your case I'm fine with you eating anything as needed for your health.

I do feel guilty about bugs but I'm also scared of some creatures: wasps and hornets and some spiders. If they get in my place I will even kill them if I can't get them out any other way. I'm too phobic.

Yes, re the animals. The whole machinery of animals for food gets people to dissociate what they're doing/eating. Pigs are at least as smart as dogs, for example, and most animals are very intelligent and all have feelings, including fear and pain. The Jains wear mesh masks over their faces while they're harvesting crops so they don't accidentally swallow insects. I personally wouldn't go that far for the insects' protection but I 100% understand.


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Chrissie Lisa, you have to read this book soon! :0)


message 11: by Lisa (new)

Lisa Vegan Chrissie wrote: "Lisa, you have to read this book soon! :0)"

Well I'll add it to my on deck shelf at least. Thanks, Chrissie.


message 12: by Debbie (last edited Sep 16, 2016 12:13PM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Debbie Zapata Chrissie wrote: "Debbie, you book doesn't exist in an audiobook. :0( "

Well, dang. That's a shame, Chrissie. I hope it will show up in audio someday!

I also understand your thoughts about all creatures now, but I agree with Lisa to the extent that certain bugs inside the house have a very limited lifespan with me around. I don't mind if lizards get inside, but flies, spiders, and mice are in serious danger if I see them. (The mice more so if Marco gets to them first...he stomps.) Outside I totally respect their space, but I just can't handle them in the house, you know?

I feel bad when I dig in the garden and accidentally puncture any of my happily obese earthworms. How can I tell beforehand where they are?!

I think we need to forgive ourselves these unavoidable cases, and do the best we can with everything else, you know?


message 13: by Lisa (new)

Lisa Vegan Debbie wrote: "I think we need to forgive ourselves these unavoidable cases, and do the best we can with everything else, you know? "

I certainly agree with this.


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Lucille Isn't this Temple Grandin the one who designs more efficient slaughterhouses? If I'm wrong, it wouldn't be the first time but I know I didn't TBR this book because of that. If I'm right about her occupation, I find it a bit challenging to reconcile what she does with what she writes. Great review as usual D.


message 15: by Lisa (new)

Lisa Vegan Lucille wrote: "Isn't this Temple Grandin the one who designs more efficient slaughterhouses?"

Lucille, Yep she does do that. I'm not fond of her at all!


message 16: by Lisa (new)

Lisa Vegan Ah, I just noticed she's the author of this book. I'm definitely less interested. I am not a fan of hers at all, not just for the "more humane" slaughterhouses. I know she has autism but even so.


message 17: by Lisa (new)

Lisa Vegan I must have seen that when I read the review. I like the review but no surprise to me that I didn't add the book!


Debbie Zapata Yep, this is that same Temple Grandin. I had moments of wondering how she could write x and yet work y, and I meant to mention that in my review, but it slipped my mind because I was so caught up at the time trying to cover all the other topics I had been intrigued by.

How could she use her knowledge about animal behavior mostly to make it easier to kill them?

She makes a comment about that very idea in her final chapter:
"People always wonder how I can work in the meatpacking industry when I love animals so much. I've thought about this a lot.

After I developed my center-track restraining system, I remember looking out over the cattle yard at the hundreds and hundreds of animals milling around in their corrals. I was upset that I had just designed a really efficient slaughter plant. Cows are the animals I love best.

Looking at those animals I realized that none of them would even exist if human beings hadn't bred them into being. And ever since that moment I've believed that we brought these animals here, so we're responsible for them. We owe them a decent life and a decent death, and their lives should be as low-stress as possible. That's my job."


I imagine in her speaking engagements across the country she has to answer this question a lot. I would not say that Grandin is an author I would want to sit down and chat with, like so many others whose books I have liked, but I still enjoyed the way the ideas were presented and the similarities between what she has seen in animal behavior and what I have seen.

Thanks for reminding me about this important point, Lucille and Lisa!


message 19: by Lisa (new)

Lisa Vegan Thanks, Debbie. Yes, I've read things and heard her on tv talking about this. Her rationalizing doesn't work at all for me. Yes, we breed them into existence and they don't only have horrible deaths but horrible lives too, no quality of life really for 99% of farmed animals. I really don't like her, though I guess I make allowances for her because she has autism.


message 20: by Lucille (new) - added it

Lucille It's interesting how she parses through it, what I call the "menu item" theory: such and such an animal exists cause it's part of the food chain. Just as we humans are, ultimately, The universal chow line forgives no one, or no thing. Just imagine if every insect on the planet suddenly disappeared: the ramifications would be crazy, and scary.


message 21: by Lisa (new)

Lisa Vegan Lucille, The thing with working on the slaughterhouses is that while I know they won't go away, they're completely unnecessary so can't she find something to do that's more meaningful for her. I guess not.


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Lucille I find her unnerving too LV!


message 23: by Chrissie (new) - added it

Chrissie Lucille wrote: "Isn't this Temple Grandin the one who designs more efficient slaughterhouses? If I'm wrong, it wouldn't be the first time but I know I didn't TBR this book because of that. If I'm right about her o..."

Thanks for jogging my head. So that ' the author!


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Lucille Tx, Chrissie.


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Chrissie You're welcome, Lucille.


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